Barack Obama takes on ‘woke’ call-out culture: ‘That’s not activism’

you know this idea of purity
and you’re never compromised and you’re always politically woke and
all that stuff, you should get over that quickly. The world is messy, there are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids
and share certain things with you and I think that one danger I see among
young people and particularly among college campuses – Malia
and I talk about this, Yara goes to school with my daughter – but I do get a sense sometimes now
among young people and this is accelerated by social media, there is this sense sometimes that
the way of me making change is to be as judgemental as possible
about other people and that’s enough. If I tweet or hashtag about how you
didn’t do something right or used the wrong verb or … then I can sit back
and feel pretty good about myself because man, you see how woke I was?
I called you out. [laughter] Then I get on TV, watch my show,
watch Grown-ish. [laughter] You know, that’s not, that’s not activism.
That’s not bringing about change, you know. If all you’re doing is casting stones,
you’re probably not going to get that far. That’s easy to do.

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