Cultural Appropriation in KPOP: Thoughts from a Korean dude

100 thoughts on “Cultural Appropriation in KPOP: Thoughts from a Korean dude

  1. Lol, black hair doesn't naturally become like that, you have to do certain things to make it that way. But good video over all. CA is relatively new to Korea, but the KPOP industry is continuously growing and spreading in all directions, ignorance can no longer be an excuse they have to understand that there are many controversial things in different countries and should educate themselves. I love this Video

  2. The main problem with kpop is that they do not seem to learn from their mistakes. Just look at the idol from SM people call them out and try to educate them everytime but them just keep doing it. What more can we do? If the managment doesn't care then nothing will change.

  3. KPOP …. yes but HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT PPOP from the Philippines? check this out https://youtu.be/P4BR-Er60yw

  4. first time I agree with dkdktv, now thats something. I hated these guys and clicked on the video to find something to hate on

  5. my biggest complaint would be the unoriginality of Kpop. Literally, the 1 song in several countries right now is Chicken Noodle Soup and that was a remake of the song done by Young B. I mean I would have more respect for Kpop if they did it with their own music and not stealing from others because most of them look like they are trying too hard to be something/someone they are not

  6. Honestly, I never understood all that cultural shit. "you can't wear braids as a white or asian girl /you can't have dreads as a white person /you shouldn't dye your hair blond as a black person /are you trying to look white/black/asian by wearing…" etc. I hate it and I personally don't understand why people feel offended by that. Do they really think that someone's wearing or doing something out of pure hate? If I do that, I most likely think It's pretty and cool but no, people feel offended by me wearing braids… 😑 I know your video is about other deeper form of cultural differences but I wanted to point that out because these days there's a lot of controversial in term of fashion. I personally like, don't mind, and even appreciate when someone from a different culture tries to approach mine by wearing or doing sth that is from my culture.

  7. Japanese bold guy, I really hope I will get a chance to meet you (and David). Thanks for opening our minds to things that are not just related to Korean but things relevant to everyone. #LoveFromSouthAfrica🙌

  8. Thank you for diving deeper into this topic. It was an eye opener and beautifully conveyed!

  9. I’m an indigenous person and I find what Soyeon did with the chant like gesture is very close to home and not right. My people were ridiculed and made fun of with that gesture for hundreds of years. That chant like gesture is what’s called a “war cry”. Our warriors fought against the settlers because they wanted to take our land, and to kill our women and children. I am highly disappointed in Soyeon. Agencies and idols really need to work on being educated about cultural appropriation. Ethic Hip should not be allowed to those who are not apart of a certain culture they are using. Disgusting.
    It’s good to know that Danny is speaking about this situation and educating about it. x

  10. TL;DR Version: Presentation good, context important.

    That was really good presentation. Cultural appropriation is definitely a problem, but too many people think that their culture is universal, when no culture truly is, and tear into people for doing something they were extremely unlikely to realize might hurt someone, without any kind of explanation as to why, especially when there's no reason to believe the person has the cultural context to see why something might be offensive.

    For me, as a white American woman, there would be no excuse for me wearing dreads. I have the cultural context to know why that would be offensive. Similarly, I would definitely give some serious side-eye to any kpop idol who was also born and raised in America wearing dreads because they certainly should understand that cultural context, but most idols wouldn't have that context to see it as anything but another hair style unless someone actually takes the time to explain why doing/ wearing certain things may upset some of their foreign fans.

  11. Incredible lecture. I'm usually very critical of how education is handled in institutions, especially in the context of race / culture / etc, but this was a masterful use of analogy that drew on all types of ethos, pathos, logos, the whole nine yards. Id pay to sit in a lecture hall of yours! Lol. Really well job done.

  12. why am I not paying to watch this. and we need this in japan too. (way more actually…)

  13. I've been a viewer for little over 2 years and was disappointed on many occasions by some of the hurtful things you've said but seeing this really made me happy knowing that you've started to see things from a different perspective. ultimately, I do wish you guys success and I wish to see you grow more politically and socially aware as global content creators.

  14. Very interesting speech! It's a really complex issue/topic for me because in my country there's not something like a symbol that could have the same effects or effects with the same impact as you mentioned and therefore I have problem understanding both parts of the "controversy" but it was really interesting and nevertheless.

  15. 19:44 mins of my life has been spent well watching this video

    Great video man!

    Aloha from Hawaii

  16. 4:02 that user is a troll, he/she has tried defaming Korea and India multiple times on many different videos.

  17. I remember when Danny said on his old videos that 'its just hair' so people should stop 'policing' the freedom to do hair anyway they like. I was really upset and considered unsubscribing (but I didn't). But NOW, I'm so happy that I didn't, because I got to see Danny grow and educate himself. He's using his platform and privilege to educate others about CA, and I'm really greatful for that, honestly. It's so hard seeing my culture get appropriated by people I 'stan', buy music from and support. This convo was needed!

  18. I was getting riled up at the start, thinking 'where's this going'? But I couldn't be any more gladder to have watched the whole thing. So proud of you Danny.

  19. Sorry but nah, SJW are driving everything into the ground. While there are a lot of things that clearly should be changed, PC culture is getting out of hand. Y'all want so much censorship that it's ridiculous.

  20. I still dont think it's big fucking deal at all culture is basically history, most people alive now didnt live thru that history and maybe wanna incorporate it into their "art" if u will, why is that offensive I'm so confused like were u people around when the native Americans were doing their thing? no. why would u be offended it's not like shes making fun of it she just probably liked the idea and went thru with it people are so fucking sensitive holy shit
    this is a vent no need to reply or give any attention to this bc I've heard so many opinions and my mind is still unchanged but injust wanted to let this out somewhere

  21. That entire presentation was very well done with just enough humor to keep college kids interested… even if it was hell on the translating end 😂

  22. White ppl dont care what you want to look like. Be happy and love the skin you in or the one you make.

  23. the beginning of the speech had me ????? but watching the whole thing made me so happy. im glad you were able to understand others instead of dismissing them forever

  24. I would like to also state that as an anime blerd (Black nerd) sometimes ppl who are Japanophiles end up idolizing the anime subculture or the traditional fuedal period to the point that they think Japan is perfect. When I went to South Korea and participated in political events after learning the history, I looked at Japan in a more realistic way, not of perfection but of human error. It's like before it was just a fantasy but now I know there is a weighted emotion towards anything brought up about "Japan is so awesome! I want to please senpai!" It's cringey and now I understand why. Thank you for educating us.

  25. The 3 examples you gave were in fact cultural appropriation. Some people need to stop being ignorant and "educate" themselve. Anyway, I enjoyed this format. Thank you for sharing.

  26. The funny thing is, the one that coined the term "Politically Correct" in the sense we have it today, was non other than Joseph Goebbels

  27. Charges of cultural appropriation are a cancer on humankind, driving people apart rather than together. Let's share and celebrate our unique cultures and bring them together to make beautiful new things.

  28. I think this was really well presented for your audience. I think a next step to add is understanding that individuals from groups that face prejudice are not responsible for educating anyone, and it's completely ok if they don't want to engage in conversation at any given time regarding educating on their identity or culture. It can be extremely exhausting, and the conversations that happen are sometimes hurtful and disrespectful despite best intentions from someone wanting to learn. Bias ad prejudice are sometimes so engrained and sometimes people aren't actually ready and willing to accept the vulnerability and growth that ther previous thoughts and actions have been direspectful and hurtful. When this happens, these conversations can turn very sour even with the best of intentions, and this can really hurt. There's already a lot of pain and trauma involved, and while conversation is very important, I think it's so important to note that humility and really engaging in active listening are such vital parts of these conversations, and it is ok if someone doesn't want to bear that conversation at a given time, even if that's frustrating to hear when best intentions are present.
    That's why there are also expert communicators in this field! Let me know if this makes sense and what questions you have!

  29. What i extremely hate is when an idol does something that is seen as cultural appropriation, everyone on twitter goes fucking ballistic and instantly switch to cancel mode and start calling the idol "racist" which is completely wrong. A "racist" is someone who degrades a race and sees them as inferior and mock them. These batshit insane twitter stans should educate the idols about the culture and be kind, but instead they only know how to attack and be toxic

  30. I think that as Kpop continues to grow abroad artist and people in Korea in general need to be educated. In America we are taught about different people and culture. Does this mean that everyone here is not ignorant, not all, we as people can always learn something new. Korea really needs to add a cultural subject to their curriculum bc without it situations like this will continue to hurt others…even though sometimes, they may not intend to.

    This is why we should think a few times before we speak. I also would not say this is "racist" bc it's not, it is ignorance. If we do not want to continue to be ignorant about the world and the people on it, I suggest we do some research and try to tread lightly on the things we say. This pertains to everyone, we just need to be mindful and understanding that's all.

    Thank you for that seminar, hopefully those who attended have walked away viewing things differently.

  31. but black people arent black. they are brown. also the concept of balck and white in art etc is one we always had. it still doesnt get me. my countries background doesnt make me sensitive to this kinda crap.. lets be honest. and people tried to bully me w it all my life… LOL

  32. i really loved this, i hope a lot of people got to understand a lot of good things from this video!!! it was truly well spoken

  33. This is very awesome. I enjoyed listening to this, I wish I was there lol. The thing is some people don’t take the time to understand other peoples culture, and react very fast on something that reflects their culture. We should know we don’t necessarily do it for bad intentions, and surly not to discriminate. We basically have all different minds and raised in a specific culture or society that affects our lives. People are surely not aware of all countries traditions, history and cultures, unless we studied it or conversate with eachother. I believe learning sociology can be helpful to understand a basics of a society of any country. We should know that our institutions were reckless in not educating us more important things than just glories. And etc. Im fiancé with a Korean and I always told him that we should always try to understand eachother even with our differences and cultures, which makes us appreciate eachother even more. 🙂

  34. in the beginning i was like "okay this is going ok" than i was like "wtf is danny saying, is he actually comparing these?" than i was like "he got me in the first half, not gonna lie" than i was hit like "ooohhh now i understand what he meant with this" and than i was like "omg danny, u understand! YES YES YES!". im proud of mah dude. <3

  35. i have been open and supportive of the lgbtq community but this still opened my eyes even more so. thanks for your time and thank you for posting this on you tube.

  36. Growing up in the generation and diverse area I live in, I’m grateful to almost never having had to experience discrimination for being Hispanic. If anything, I admit to us being the guilty ones of discriminating other fellow minority races.
    Initially, when I first was made aware of political correctness I went full in SJW online. However in the past two years I’ve realized arguing in the way many do never has helped change anyone’s mind. Then I kind of backed off and adopted the mindset of “people are just sensitive” until I came out to my parents this year, and that experience changed the way I saw many things.
    You don’t understand people’s pain over something unless you put yourself in the same shoes with a similar situation that hits home to you, or unless you take the context of the person’s reactions into consideration either.
    Cultural appropriation is a tricky topic to discuss without everyone getting into heated arguments and blocking each other out, however I think it’s always important to keep an open mind to both sides because there is much to learn about each other and where the points of view of any given arguments may be coming from.

  37. cultural appropiation is the biggest fucking bullshit ive ever heard of. when something isnt used in a negative way it SHOULD boost friendships between different culture. i mean tell me a bigger fcking honor than having a custom in your culture that people like to the extend of actually applying it in their own culture.

  38. There are many different groups around the world who have had their hair in naturally formed dreaded locks throughout history. There are depictions in murals and statues of ancient Greeks, Romans, Christians, Vikings, and Egyptians with their hair in dreaded locks. A lot of indigenous tribes in the Americas, parts of Australia, and Africa(Egypt, Kenya, Nigeria, Tanzania, Ghana, and more) also had dreadlocks. Hindu Sadhus, holy men regard locks as sacred, considered to be a religious practice and an expression for their disregard of vanity. In Tibetan Buddhism, some Buddhist Yogis also had their hair in naturally formed dreaded locks. Rastafari dreadlocks were inspired by the Nazarites of the Bible.
    Nowadays many people wear dreadlocks and pay a lot of money to have their hair dreaded at a salon. It is more of a trend for some, with no spiritual or significant meaning behind it. I don't believe any one group has the right to claim dreadlocks as part of their culture alone. Lack of knowledge of different cultures and history leads some people to attack others, call them ignorant, and accuse them of cultural appropriation of certain hairstyles, which might not necessarily be exclusive to their culture. People should educate themselves before attacking others.

  39. The same thing can be said about mamamoo as well. They made a mistake once years ago and they apologised for it, yet stan twitter keeps calling them racist and keeps spreading lies that they made even more ignorant mistakes. Black people of course have every right not to forgive them, but most of the hate doesn't come from them.
    Coming from a country that has a very very small non-white population, I can sympathise a bit with koreans. If I hadn't had a tumblr as a teen or searched on my own about black issues I wouldn't know anything about cultural appropriation and racism cause it just isn't a thing where I'm from.

  40. GOD this is very well done. I love the comparison from the outright appropriative/offensive things to the more subtle, but still possibly offensive ones. those grey areas are where many people debate about, and understanding that on a global scale is Very important.

  41. I have noticed, there are times Koreans would ask a certain question that works as a trap. No matter how you answer it, they will have a reason to hate you. For Holland, you were honest without offending the LGBT community. If you liked it, they would think you're gay or enjoy gay content. If you felt uncomfortable, they'll think you're a homophobe. They shouldn't have asked you to watch it if they didn't want your honest opinion. Isn't that what reactions are all about?

    You should feel free to have an opinion and stick with your beliefs, as long as you are respectful to everyone regardless. I have a lot of gay friends, and they know I don't agree with it because of my personal beliefs and religion, but we are good friends! I treat them like I would any of my other friends, and they know they can come and talk to me about their relationship and their feelings without feeling judged. I will always have their back and defend them as a person. If someone doesn't like black people, that's fine! I'm not gonna push people to like us. They are entitled to their beliefs, as long as they treat us like they would anyone else.

  42. Sometimes, I also feel the 'racist' card is being thrown around too much. You can appropriate a culture without being racist. They may just think it's cool and want to try it out. It also isn't fair to judge the idols or their group too harshly since it is the agency or stylists who give them that style. It is nice to be defended by other races, but I feel more than half of the time, actual black people like myself couldn't care less. That's not to say that the topic doesn't matter, or that it should be allowed, but there are just so many bigger issues in the world. It also puts a spotlight on our community as being overly sensitive which isn't right either.

    I'm Canadian, and our Prime Minister was in the news for wearing black face years ago. I wasn't bothered. It was his past. We all make mistakes! And he's someone who seems to care deeply about minorities and promotes immigration. As long as he knows it's wrong, and hasn't done it since then, then he should be forgiven.

    I would hate to be held accountable for stupid or ignorant things I did as a kid. Like that "I went to the Chinese restaurant" hand game I played where you'd make the Asian eyes. That was before I knew anything about Asian culture (and it was kinda funny too, cause my school had a lot of asians and minorities, and even they did it, so I figured it was okay!). Now I've been interested in Japan since 2006 and Kpop since 2011, and I've never done it since. Education is important. If someone makes an ignorant mistake, we should inform them and teach them so they can learn from it. Not hate on them and try to cancel them. -__-

  43. I really appreciated this video so thank you for posting it. I think it helps to enlighten those who may do/say/think un-PC things (me for one, despite my best efforts) coming from an unintentionally insensitive place and therefore feel confused or inculpable, like you originally did in response to the criticism you received to your offhand comment abt Holland. It's not easy for global fandoms/communities to always be PC with each other but I do think that like those college students you were speaking to, we should take the oppt to learn from each other organically and directly, instead of holding onto our narrow worldviews that are selectively shaped by outdated academic texts and generally homogeneous spheres of influence.

  44. im sorry but why does is the intro of this video giving me Kermit vibez lmaooooo

  45. Danny, I’m so proud of you. You’ve truly have come somewhere far, in your person you’ve grown and I’m so happy to be supporting you- I hope you can educate more people and continue what you’re doing for your fans happily and healthily 🖤

  46. Woow I kinda got mad at you when you said you used to “comment” that people were being too sensitive, but I really like your change of perspective. I’m really proud of you for having the speech and make the students be more aware of cultural appropriation. Good job

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  48. Sogang University ?!?!?! Excuse meeeee !!!! i'm in this uni for a semester when was your conference !!!????

  49. The opening voice he did had me ROLLING on the damn floor cackling 🤣🤣🤣

  50. Great video, I didn't expect my mind to make new connections… Living in the " West", we think we are aware of our other western neighbours' cultural issues, sometimes it doesn't quite fit because we still went and go through different situations: Slavery in America or Europe's colonial history for instance. Resentment and/or regret are so heavy!

  51. Cultural Appropriation is a term used by those who want to enforce the actions of others. World is globalizing and cultures are mixing in an alarming rate. Mexican food was not seen in the US but now every city has a taqueria. Sushi was a hidden gem until the 1980s gave its exposure internationally. Dreadlocks have been used by Latin American Tribes (my ancestors) along with Africans and minority groups throughout Asia. Humans have created this phenomenon that shows no sign of slowing down. PC culture will just reverse the oppressive rules long instigated by the oppressors through history. You can’t do ___ because we couldn’t. It’s such a bitter stamp on society. How can we move forward with grievances of the past? Alas only fate knows.

  52. Thanks Danny this is a great video
    But, and this is my opinion, I am African and I don't think those Kpop idols with those hair styles were being racist or anything (except maybe they outrightly had ulterior motives for them)I think a person who copies the way you dress,talk,cook etc is just telling you even without words they admire that in you and that's the biggest compliment, I get the fact that some people out of ignorance hurt others when they do this(and when that is the case let try to educate or correct instead of condemnation, the way some love throwing pity parties through these avenue, aarrgghh 🤦) and please the whole story especially about the hair is not just "struggle the of black person",it is also a beautiful African heritage,our hairstyles are usually works of art to say the least
    Also I really did like that comment that said something like "we should try and get out of our own heads" while it is important for everyone to learn to respect other people's culture/history if don't get out of your own head one day you'll find yourself offended a member of your family is breathing 'cos it somehow OFFENDS you and your Struggles

  53. Danny really knows how to bring it full-circle 😭👏☺ So much respect!

  54. I don't mind the dreadlocks – cause every ones hair will do that without regular maintenance – but as a black american woman – What I do mind in "cultural appropriations" is when I see our blood, sweat and tears of music, dance, style being used as if another culture thought of it first, knowing they "borrowed" it from the black culture. So much as been stolen (sorry, borrowed) from black culture and we know there will never be a sorry or shout out to the originators of style in music – dance or fashion. But, this is a start thank you.

  55. Danny this was beautiful. You are right what the whole world needs right now are proper conversations and understanding. Good job!

  56. I love how whites and Koreans seem so similar in excusing their crimes away with "ignorance" and with their insistence on TALKING instead of listening. It might be best to let the victims explain more accurately what is actually taking place. While I literally cried during your explanation–only for my appreciation that you seemed to get it–your initial segue into the lecture was disappointing and makes me feel that you honestly don't get it (since I imagine it was added afterward). IGNORANCE does not explain away racism or discrimination. To talk about cultural appropriation absent of racism, bigotry, and power struggles with racial representation which is ever-present in Korea speak volumes regarding your assessment of the problem. The real issue of why "cultural appropriation" seems to be less of a problem in Korea isn't because it's…less of a problem. The problem is that there are no social penalties against even blatant discrimination and racism and seemingly ZERO real concern for the races appropriation affects in and outside of the country. You don't talk about cultural appropriation in Korea because you barely ever give the victims of it a platform to do so or even make racism in Korea an issue beyond Internet whining. If you consider the level of racism and xenophobia in South Korea that runs ALONGSIDE these acts of de-racialized cultural "celebration" for entertainment purposes and cheap thrills (e.g. dreadlocks; blackened skin; blackface), you'd be closer to really getting why this isn't about shades of ignorance. Korea really does need more discourse on race, but with other POC and people who struggle with race there (not just white folk). That said, this doesn't mean that one needs to meet racial others to learn respect and be considerate of racial differences. South Koreans know well the racial effects of wearing dreadlocks, blackened skin, blackface, throwing gang signs, and yelling native American-esque calls. South Korea is an advanced country with one of the world's most educated and Internet-connected populations. Most people live in advanced cities or in Seoul's Megalopolis. This stuff isn't just about fashion choices and balancing PC ideals. South Koreans know exactly what they are doing, when they do it, why, and often its positive and negative effects. Anyways, thank you so much for the lecture–it truly moved me to real tears, anger, and frustration. RH.

  57. I made sure to take my time with this video. I didn't want to jump to any conclusions or ideas.

    This is a Great presentation. I actually remember seeing that comment about the flag. Yes, I feel like some people shout "Cultural Appropriation!" when it's not, but there are plenty of things that truly are and things that remind different groups of terrible time from the past and sometimes even Today. It can be hard to see someone casually wear something that can get you fired or even suspended from school. I'm really glad we're having this conversation. Sometimes the internet has too many people getting mad first and asking questions later. Thank you for this.

    Context: I'm a first-generation African American, which means that my parents were born and raised in Africa but I was born and raised in America. I have locs too.

  58. I wouldn’t call Soyeon racist or ignorant per se, and I definitely feel like the hate she’s getting is a bunch of nit pickers finding stuff to get angry over. But ngl, after what she said G-idle’s music feels so superficial now. It sucks. I can’t take them seriously anymore. Idk, I used to love them but they feel so….meaningless you know? Like I get music doesn’t need a meaning all the time, but the sheer lack of effort they put into finding a concept and just mashing literally whatever together, makes it so hard to get hyped for them…I hate it.😕

  59. Racism, ignorance, and not being educated enough on the topic are three very different things. Soyeon May have been very stereotypical and disrespectful while doing this but you can’t say she was specifically trying to offend the African race. Like seriously she’s not stupid. She’s not going to disrespect a minority on national television. Especially since she has her reputation as an idol to uphold. Also why do I have a feeling the majority of people claiming something’s blackface or racist ARENT EVEN BLACK.

  60. I'm so glad i watched till the end, I was getting a bit heated half way through, but then realized where this was going. This was such a good speach, i even teared up. I'm really proud of you, Danny

  61. Wtf dude. You were at sogang and I didn’t even know??? I need to check the billboards more often…

  62. Uwaaa. That was a great lecture! Concise, informative and on point! Nice job!

  63. I loved this lecture and it actually got me emotional…I've always seen korean people as a little close minded and the fact that you encapsulated the idea of cultural appropriation beautifully and made Koreans think in a similar way we do made me feel at ease. Thank you so much, till a world where we can understand each other ❤️

  64. I love this! The only thing I don't agree with is the dreadlock thing because other asian ethnicities have dreadlocks too. Also some European countries had dreadlocked hair.

  65. Because Asians aren't looking to virtue signal our social status like pathethic white SJWs

    "Cultural appropriation" is a retarded label we just actually don't fucking care

  66. Honestly cultural appropriation is so fucking stupid to be honest. What people don’t realize is that it’s bringing people apart that’s why we’re failing the human race. And for Korean people you shouldn’t stereotype all korean people as ignorant because there are actually many Koreans that are well educated on different cultures.

    I mean can’t I eat food that comes from your culture and can’t you eat food that comes from mine, can’t I speak you language and you can speak mine, can’t I wear fashion that comes from your culture and you can wear mine?

    We’re failing our world and it’s also with this cultural appropriation shit. If I saw a white woman singing gospel music you think I would go up to her and say “Shut up! Your not black stop singing music from our culture” or if a white woman was wearing braids you think I would go up to her and say, “Take off those braids! You are mocking black people!” Just because a person is a different color than me or comes from another culture doesn’t mean I have to tell them what they should and should not do. And I actually learned that the first people who wore braids were not blacks, it was actually Native Americans.

    Cultural appropriation is dividing each and every single one of us and sooner or later there is going to be someone telling me to go back to my country.

  67. Nobody understood what Soyeon from (G)I-DLE was talking about and barely anyone knew the instrument Soyeon was talking about either and then they immediately call it “Cultural Appropriation”

    Like some said, “Cultural appropriation is destroying Cultural Appreciation”

    When Soyeon started talking about an African chief most people were saying, “What is An African chief ugh Soyeon is just making up words ugh Soyeon is ignorant.” I was surprised Soyeon knew what an African chief was and she even knew that there were two meanings for it. One for a king and one for the police.

    And it has come to my conclusion that the reason people are calling what Soyeon did is cultural appropriation is because she is educated. She’s a young korean female that is well educated on our cultures and they hate on her for that.

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