100 thoughts on “WHAT IS (AND ISN’T) QUEERBAITING?

  1. i feel like it's also important 2 point out that some shows fall in2 the first category & are accidentally hintin @ somethin but then they move in2 the second category & purposely qu**rbait once they realize the accidental hintin has gained more popularity 4 them

  2. I believe that queenbaiting can also be when a book/movie/show/etc has an explicitly gay relationship but doesn't explore it, and just uses it to gain a viewership.

  3. the queer reading of ursula gets excessively overstated.. she's CONSTANTLY referenced, but without any discernible "coding" in the film at all.. from every indication within the story she's a cis female, voiced by a cis actress, with only a random behind the scenes mention that divine was an inspiration during the development phase of her design (while the archetype Divine was known for portraying was never one of queer/queen, but simply funny/scary women).. same as numerous other characters like dumbledore, etc; a writer, director, animator, throwing out some random headcannon that's never addressed (or even so much as hinted at) within the story isn't "queercoding".

  4. the queer reading of ursula gets excessively overstated.. she's CONSTANTLY referenced, but without any discernible "coding" in the film at all.. from every indication within the story she's a cis female, voiced by a cis actress, with only a random behind the scenes mention that divine was an inspiration during the development phase of her design (while the archetype Divine was known for portraying was never one of queer/queen, but simply a scary woman).. same as numerous other characters like dumbledore, etc; a writer, director, animator, throwing out some random headcannon that's never addressed (or even so much as hinted at) within the story isn't "queercoding".

  5. What do you think of the The Dragon Prince (Netflix original) queerbaiting controversy?

  6. man the clip at 12:37 really annoyed me. theyre not the ones struggling to get representation and taking what scraps they can get

  7. "Jk Rowling, who I really want to like, but it's so hard!" Oh my gosh, same!

  8. Fantastic video! This cleared up a lot of things for me haha tysm

  9. Ok great video but… You just have a monocle lying around… I wish I did XD

  10. And then after baring us with Betty and Veronica, Riverdale had the gaul to give us the hot lesbian couple while still using the gay men and cheap comedy.

  11. I hate the cultural landscape at the moment. It's hard to depict anything with a minority group inside of it, even if it would be realistic and possible.
    People read so much into so many things about these topics.

  12. Using Supergirl as an example might not have been the best choice. The so-called "fandom" the actors were telling off there had harassed and bullied and body-shamed multiple cast members and crew, insisting that Lena and Kara are gay. (They are not, in fact gay, to that point.) Chris Wood and Mehcad Brooks in particular were mocked for their physical appearance, the targets of hate speech and even death threats. I think if the showrunners gave toxic people what they wanted even after the colossal abuse endured at their hands by their employees, it's be rewarding hateful behavior.

    Some of these people also TRACKED DOWN FLORIANA LIMA'S GRANDFATHER on Twitter and harassed him to know Flo's sexuality and if she was a real life Latina. There is a sense of entitlement burgeoning in fandom, in general that is incredibly worrisome. Flo's nationality is nobody's business. The fact that Chris Wood's father died as a result of mental illness is nobody's business. Melissa is not going to "leave him" to get with Katie irl just because a few toxic people want them to.

    They claim to be a mere vocal minority, but there's hundreds of thousands of these people. Most of SG's cast now eschew's social media entirely.

    Kara and Lena WERE friends. There was never anything romantic there, and while I wouldn't laugh or poke fun at anyone who might see something there–demanding it become canon of the showrunners is not right. Harassing the cast is not right. If Chris Wood never wants to come back, I won't blame him. But even if Mon-El never makes a reappearance, the chances of a Super and a Luthor getting together (already slim given the bad blood) are far in the negative below zero now thanks to the "fandom" which made the entire cast so fed up that they sang that song at a National, high profile convention like SDCC.

    They're done. And I don't blame them for it, nor should anyone else in light of how they were treated.

  13. You’re so right about Riverdale. I watched a few episodes just because I saw a clip where they kissed, but stopped watching when I realized they definitely weren’t planning on following any F/F storylines

  14. Queer applies to more than just sexual relationships, right? There's agender, bigender etc. characters. Does queerbaiting describe when it's pretty much queerbaiting, except it's hinting at being agender bigender etc.?

  15. Never even heard of queer bating. This is so stupid. People need to stop being so butt hurt dang. You are never going to get rid of hate and not everyone is going agree. Everyone just needs to get over themselves. When a person brings this stupid crap up all they are doing is making themselves a weak victim. So there you go.

  16. The point at 5:12 about some queerbaiting being "accidental" doesn't seem quite right to me. The way I think of it, if it's accidental, it's not bait. Jake and Boyle are a depiction of a close platonic relationship that isn't queerbait, but they also aren't a popular ship, which makes them an obvious example. Characters like Steve and Bucky on the other hand, are incredibly popular, but (although I obviously don't know the creators intentions) I wouldn't call them bait because there's never been any deliberate hinting at or teasing a relationship. In fact, after the Winter Soldier came out and the ship got a lot of mainstream coverage, every subsequent film separated the characters more and more. I think that bait requires some level of malicious intent, wheras with a couple like Steve/Bucky they stumbled into in when writing a close friendship. On a similar note, I wouldn't call Finn and Poe bait either. It's more explicitly discussed, and Oscar Isaac is very supportive of it, but not in a way that feels designed to make me believe it will happen. It's a case of one actor being supportive of fans, but the creators aren't feeding us an endless will-they-won't-they (and again, in episode iix, Rian Johnson deliberately separated Finn and Poe). However, I also think what starts out as a friendship being accidentally read as romantic can become queerbait, and I would imagine this is how a lot of bait gets started – Dean and Cas drew in a lot of viewers (especially straight girls, who honestly are sometimes the main target of this kind of bait), so the creators ramped up the relationship while keeping it unconfirmed. I stopped watching Supergirl after season 2, and Kara and Lena never read as bait to me at that time, but from what I've heard their relationship has become a lot more baity since, and there's always the possibility of Star Wars baiting Finn and Poe in the next movie.
    (whoops I did not mean to write this much of an essay I just have A Lot of thoughts about the way lines are drawn around queerbaiting and I rarely see any nuanced discussion of it)

  17. Wanna know what I'm sick of? Bisexual characters always getting shuffled into the gay or straight bin. They are BI. They didnt suddenly turn straight. They didn't suddenly turn gay. Their whole life wasn't a lie. They're just fucking BI.

    And I'm not just looking at the straight people when I say this. I'm looking at the LGBTQ+ too😤

  18. Are you the same women who voices spill but this is your fun channel?

  19. You mentioned it just briefly, but can you do a video about culture appropriation?

  20. Considering that Neil Gaimsn is currently, after he, years before, interacted with the Good Omens fan community on LiveJournal — many b of whom read Crowley and Aziraphale as gay, and considering (all the references that he and Pratchett made to at last one of them palling around with Oscar Wilde and other noteworthy gays of yore), its now saying that C+A are somehow asexual, this shit is even more relevant.

    Of course, since Todd Chavez on _BoJack Horseman_, or hell, retconning Jughead Jones (who was hell of gay coded in the 1960s), asexual characters have been trendy, cos he be "Ace-baiting"? 🤔

    Either way, this is so painfully relevant.

  21. just. fucking abhorrent that you have middle aged white men making fun of LGBT teenagers who pick up on the very purposeful gay subtext you half-assedly slapped into your show. its disgusting that straight cishet men basically prey on lgbt teens desperate for even a hint of lgbt representation and then make fun of them for even having the audacity to believe that the trap they were put in was safe. fuck u moffat

  22. I'm not sure if you've seen Sherlock but if you have I'm impressed by your restraint in not mentioning it. That whole thing is a shitshow. I am not nearly as strong.

  23. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Voltron Legendary Defender. Some of the fan girls are extremely obsessive of shipping Keith and Lance, one resorted to blackmail

  24. The thing about Rowling though… she hasn’t written anything in the Potter universe since that interview. She’s credited for the screenplays, but I don’t think that means she actually wrote them.

  25. but sarah! thing bad!

    …and by thing i mean the fake representation that is an author saying it's gay but having as much evidence about it or less than the fans :/ it shouldn't even count but i guess they realize if we'll take crumbs of representation they can ask for crumbs of praise v-v i wish i wasn't indeed so desperate but i haven't let go of the hope that in this the last season of supernatural (allegedly) they will finally give us what we want, those are almost not crumbs like at what point even does a tiny little bite stops counting as a bite anyways right ;;;-;;;;

  26. Omg, you have three dalek in your door from the 5series of doctor who's reboot ❤

  27. legends of tomorrow fans need to pay more attention to the part about intensely platonic vs. queerbating

  28. watching the video as you have 121k subs and you are bragging about having 10k lol

  29. This was interesting. I didn't know EXACTLY what the terms were and meant. Despite being aware of the phenomenons. Thanks fer learnin me some. RAH!

  30. The thing that’s interesting about Glee, is that it was very much considered revolutionary. Kurt being VERY gay, or Mercedes being VERY black, seemed to be something that the show was aware of. Like the writers knew that throwing these stereotypes that weren’t allowed at the time in the faces of viewers was the best way to get the message across. I don’t condone Glee for the reason that it’s lazily written and there’s enough plot holes to create some creepy-other world version of the US. However, Kurt was fleshed out and toned down later on in the series when viewers brought this to writers’ attention.

  31. This is a good intro to the problem and you've made a good enough video here that I could possibly assign this to one of my classes to watch.

    Fwiw, however, arguing that what makes something queerbaiting or not depends on authorial intention can be problematic, because people watch and understand media regardless of what creators intend. That is, whether or not the creators intend to queerbait, the effects can be similar. If I am desperate to see LGBT characters on screen that reflect my interests, and they ultimately do not, how much does it matter why they do not? I am still watching a show that does not affirm. I personally do believe intention matters, but we also have to deal with the results.

    You also seem to be suggesting that I research the showrunners intentions to find out whether or not they intended to queerbait or not. If that's the case, I would imagine we will just create a situation where showrunners will always claim they would have, but couldn't, for some reason (somebody said "no"). I'm not sure that will be much of an improvement.

    But this is a good conversation starter video: you give lots of examples and a clear discussion of the history behind the problem, so thank you for that!

  32. remember when pitch perfect did that movie promo where beca and chloe almost kissed but they ended up not putting a kiss in the movie and just putting chloe with the military guy bc i'm still bitter

  33. i'm not sure if it would count as queerbaiting, but the way scorbus was portrayed in harry potter and the cursed child upsets me. It could be argued they are just very, very close, but alot of things in the play hint at them having romantic feelings for eachother. When i saw the play, they hugged alot, said very very romantic things to another and albus even kissed scorpius on the head at the very end. I feel like if roles were reversed and he did/said all these things to rose, everyone would ship it. It doesn't take much of a brain to see that their relationship is not purely platonic

  34. I watched an anime once called Kyo kara maoh that had the lead males accidentally get engaged in the first episode and never break that off, but one of them actually fell in love with the other one and the other one was extremely homophobic about it! It was so painful to watch cause their whole relationship felt forced, neglectful, and sometimes downright abusive! you could tell they didn't want the relationship to happen or to progress in any way but they continued to put these characters in vaguely romantic and even sexualized situations where the pansexual one is hurt significantly because he's being forced to hope for some future chance with this guy who they constantly reinforce is Super Straight. I don't know what their true intentions were but those images of some sort of relationship were all over their promotional material and it felt like they were intentionally using them to draw in people like me who wanted to see more depictions of same-sex couples. And it was a LONG show by some standards, having 3 seasons and over 100 episodes, the 'relationship' lasted all the way to the last episode.

  35. I'm so glad that you pointed out that LoK isn't queerbaiting I was afraid I was gonna have to make an angry comment! AND THAT KORRA HELPED BLAZED A TRAIL FOR LGBT REPRESENTATION! It means a lot! It's my favorite show and hearing that makes me really happy!

  36. With supernatural, yes, they do queerbate, but there are many lgbt characters, as in sherlock, albeit less. So technically they’re not just eluding to them like ‘oh yeah btw gays exist we’re woke’. I really like Charlie and she’s openly lgbt, so idk lol 🤷‍♀️

  37. The weird thing is everyone always says "if this happened between a man and a woman no one would bat an eye," but it's rare that anyone will bring examples up. Flirting is flirting, weird flirting is weird flirting, something vaguely hinting is something vaguely hinting.
    Characters who aren't typically gay suddenly appearing gay is a huge slap in the face to loyal fans, like with Betty and Veronica.
    Also, who wants explicit relationships between gays? I don't even want explicit relationships between straights, that's not quality nor is it entertainment.

  38. "I am the one who gripped you tight and raised you from perdition."
    You mean to tell me that wasn't the smoothest pick-up line to have ever passed Castiel's lips?? Honestly, if I were Dean I would have jumped naked into his arms screaming "TAKE ME".

  39. I’m curious about if it is queer baiting when show makers make openly gay characters for the sake of them being gay so the show seems “progressive”. By this I mean the extremely one dimensional characters where their sexuality honestly shouldn’t matter and isn’t relevant to the story, but it is included for the show to get more press and seem inclusive.

  40. there's a movie on netflix on the lgbtq+ session, just pure queerbaiting. nothing ever happens, it's never mentioned, they only hint at it in one scene.
    edit: "a friendship that turns into more" they said. no it doesn't. if it turns into something it's brotherhood.

  41. NO…BITCH…Are you crazy??? URSULLA, SCARS and HADES are THE BEST CARACTERS ON THE FUCKING MOVIES…..and they're good representation .They're teatrical, inteligent, smart and funny….yes they are evil, but as GAY KID that now is a GROWN UP MEN…You learn to take away the good things.

  42. I'm going to address a relatively-minor-yet-not-irrelevant annoyance that I've had for years and can now finally put into words.

    I am fine with the all-too-familiar "straight teen girl obsessing over male (they're rarely female) same-sex couples in media" demographic. I really am.


    I have noticed that there's an increasing tendency among this particular group of people to start policing content creators on how to do queer representation, and often not in the right way.

    For example.

    I've seen hordes of straight teen girls over the years who have claimed that censored, yet explicit gay relationships are queerbaiting. The most recent example of this is Disney Channel's Andi Mack, which featured the network's first-ever openly gay main character as well as same-sex romance storylines and a coming out plot. To be clear: there was nothing ambiguous at all about this character's sexuality, he literally said the words "I'm gay." For this reason, Disney came under ENORMOUS scrutiny and the show was banned in multiple countries. In the series finale last week, a popular straight 'ship' shared a kiss, while the gay couple confirmed their love for each other by hand holding. While most queer people I talked to about this, felt that Disney Channel taking this giant step was an excellent achievement for the community that changed the lives of many queer youngsters, the reactions were less sweet among the aforementioned demographic. The straight teen girls accused Disney of queerbaiting, I assume because the cutesy ship didn't end up making out on screen, thereby completely negating the fact that this was actual, genuine queer representation that marked a milestone for a super influential network like Disney Channel, as well as for actual young queer people. I understand being frustrated by displays of homosexuality having to be toned down on some occasions, but this was not queerbaiting – far from it. Quite the opposite, actually. Conflating the two is harmful to a community that these people aren't part of themselves.

    This is by no means the only example. I can't even count the amount of times a straight fangirl has tried to lecture me on what does and doesn't make for 'realistic portrayals of same-sex relationships' (something they only seem to care about when a gay character ends up dating someone else than they hoped). If a network decides to portray genuine, real-life issues like gay couples fighting or breaking up, or one of the two shipped characters being straight and thus not interested, reactions from this demographic are generally fuming, despite the fact that, for queer people, it's important to show these topics. I could go on for hours and still not even scratch the surface.

    Why does this matter? Well, I can think of two reasons. First of all: being harsh towards content creators who are actually making amazing contributions to the queer community, and accusing them of being guilty of things they're not guilty of (like queerbaiting), scares other content creators away from also creating queer representation in their productions, which is bad for obvious reasons. Secondly, when creators do end up adding queer storylines to their productions, they'll increasingly try to cater to the obsessed straight teen girl demographic, by featuring things like unrealistic-but-adorable romance plots and whatnot. This is already happening on a large scale and severely deflates the value of queer representation; there aren't any real stories being shown, just the stories some straight folks will tune in to watch.

    If you belong to the demographic mentioned above: first of all, thank you for helping normalise being queer. But for the love of God, please realise that queer storylines in media aren't meant for you. Leave the criticism to actual queer people, because what you're doing right now only sets us back.

    Please realise that I'm not trying to attack anyone, but we can't have cisstraight folks talking for or over us, thus creating a parallel narrative that isn't dominated by the people who should be the ones dominating it – the queer community itself.

  43. This is totally unrelated to the video but… hey, you went to Iceland?? How did you like it there? I've been once and I thought it was awesome! I hope your trip went well 🙂

  44. Sr sr jr also did end up falling in love with a woman at the end

  45. "Big queer audience" … gays make up 2-6% of the population depending on where you are
    Some places far less
    Some places its 100% illeagal sooooo the show would be pulled there

  46. I think in supernatural other characters poke fun at how close dean and castiel are eluding to it being gay but in jest…

  47. I thought frodo and Sam from lird of the rings have a clear queer subtext in the movies…and the book

  48. 3:08 The best moment of this video. I rolled on my floor laughing. Thanks for this video!

  49. Stayed for the nightvale background. When are you talking about nightvale?

  50. My major issue with queerbaiting or other things within the minorities or lgbt-related things is the fact that it is either forced or inorganic. I do not like the relationship in The Legend of Korra because after we washing it several times it just doesn't feel natural. Yes they had hard shifts throughout their lives and Korra did sabotage a relationship. Hardship does blossomforth a relationship but if someone doesn't know how to write it properly it just feels inorganic, just like what happened with Voltron where they just put in a random gay character do absolutely nothing with them and then just kill them off and have the gay character get remarried to another guy without even showing who this guy is.

    It's also the same exact reason why I hate black washing even as a black man myself. It's inorganic disrespectful tokenization of what would otherwise be a either a decent or a good story but don't respect the original Source or the people and just throw them in there just to be quote-unquote diverse there for insulting the minorities by disguising themselves as being representative of minorities. A good example of that is what's going on with BBC and their programs by basically removing any and all white people such as Achilles and make them black, or with Disney as of late basically adding in random blacks in there to be quote-unquote diverse and a real spit in the face is the upcoming The Little Mermaid remake where they outright just black wash the entire movie when they could have just as easily made a movie about The Princess and the Frog

    I care more about good story writing the characters and their plights and what makes them human. It's perfectly fine to have a healthy relationship, it's perfectly fine to have a very close friendship, it's perfectly fine to be a minority, and it's perfectly okay to be white and it is perfectly fine to be straight gay or whatever as long as it is organic

  51. haven't watched brooklyn99, but one of the main reasons JD and Turk aren't considered queer-baiting is that they are both constantly put in romantic situations with women. That shouldn't actually disqualify their relationship from being possibly romantic, but we all know bisexuality doesn't exist on screen, right?

    A lot of the queer baiting accusation towards Dumbledore, Sherlock/Watson, Steve/Bucky and especially Dean/Cas stands on the fact one or both of the characters aren't showing a lot or any interest in dating woman, or at least not as much as they are seem interested in their supposed male friend. Basically, we as audience assume that a) all people have romantic attraction and a desire to be in a romantic attraction, and b) there is no chance a platonic friendship would mean more or as much to a person as a romantic relationship.

    So, if this person isn't in romantic relationships with women, or he is but seems to care more about a friend – he must be into men and/or in love with said friend. The Destiel vs Wincest ship-war is a great example, cause Destiel shippers write very long and detailed meta about how "Of course they are in love!!1" but once someone tries to do the same for Wincest, showing how the same tropes and scene that 'prove' romance between Dean and Castiel have been used to show the love between Sam and Dean, the reply is "but they are brothers, of course they aren't in love". So, if the exact same gesture can be non-romantic (between Sam and Dean) why can't it be non-romantic between Dean and Castiel? Because there is nothing to exclude it being romantic it must be so?! that's a pretty thin argument in my book, but that's our amatonormative society.

    And once you get the fandom believing in it, giving them little nudges is the best way to keep them, and we all know a lot of sub-celeb-level shows are heavily depending on the shippers, SPN probably wouldn't be on if it weren't for them, so they have to keep feeding them something but also never actually giving it to them cause they probably never wanted to to begin with, and also they need to appeal to all fangirls, also the ones who don't ship it.

    And this is an important distinction I believe, between intentional queer-baiting from the get-go set by the writers themselves (like betty/veronica), and queer-baiting as a respond of fandom. Not cause only the first is wrong, but because the later is something we as fans have a lot more say over and it also sends harmful messages about the value of friendship compare to romance as well as being arophobic and aro-erasing. Especially in today's shipping culture that somehow became based on "subtext proofs", meaning you have to prove there is a basis to your ship, instead of just fangirls (and boys) having fun cause "I wanna see these two bang".

  52. I always felt that Dumbledore was gay when I read the books (there was settle hints) so when JK announced that he was gay I wasn´t at all surprised. I´v gone through teachers training. It is not something you talk with your students and HP books are written from Harry´s perspective and based to the books Dumbledore at least at one point truly loved Grindewald and it was something that Dumbledore was ashamed off not because of being gay but Grindewald being completely different to what he originally thought he was. Harry only found out about Dumbledore and Grindewald in the seventh book and that made him understand Dumbledore´s inner battles. In away Dumbledore and Grindewald work as a bridge between Harry and Voldemort. Dumbledore hesitated to battle with Grindewald because he once loved him. Neither Harry or Voldemort hesitate since their connection is more of a necessary evil.

  53. JK did not say werewolves in general represented people with HIV. She was only talking about the character of Lupin. It´s pretty clear in his relationship with Tonks especially when she gets pregnant Remus is afraid that the child might be infected. In subtext this is a real concern among parents with HIV. Lot of the things that JK has said have been taken out of context and I can´t and I wont back up everything she has said but Lupin was written with that intention from the start. That is also why he is treated as an outcast everywhere he goes.

  54. God this clears up so much confusion and frustration with certain shows. Thanks a ton

  55. I don't evn like the word queer and I thought the trigger warning was unnecessary…

  56. I was so glad when Marceline and Princess Bubblegum kissed, it made me so happy to see that they got to fully confirm their relationship.

  57. JK is straight up a TERF anyway, so progressive she is not. Seeing her get called #woke made me want to puke.

  58. A former roommate of mine brought up Andrew from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She argued that he was an example of harmful queerbait, but I had always assumed he was more of a queer-coded character that was introduced at a time when TV was far more restrictive of representation and there was already an explicitly same-sex relationship on the show at the time.

    My roommate had a lot of bad-faith opinions on a variety of TV and movies, but this was the only one where I could see her argument. What’s the consensus on Andrew? Necessarily queer-coded or straight up queerbait??

  59. I guess the problem is…Chekhov's Gun. IE you show a gun, you better shoot it!! You show queer subtext, you better piss off Alabama, or else don't put it at all.

  60. I think at this point we can all agree that Teen Wolf is no longer queerbaiting and is just flat-out gay.

  61. while we're talking about cartoon network. if you wanna know the most heinous, evil queerbaiting show on cartoon network, look no further than we bare bears, lol

  62. Korra has gay people in it? I do not remember that.

    Dumbledore in the original books is not heteronormative, but he is most certainly not gay. When the whole thing with Gryndelwald first comes up, he states he is pan-romantic and a-sexual.

  63. thanks for tagging the use of queer at the beginning because I don’t see a lot of people who do that and they really should ❤️❤️

  64. I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room here: does queerbaiting make the overall story better? Most times, no. But if a character "happens" to be gay, I don't really see it being a huge issue.
    End of the day, I just wanna watch a good, engaging story. If the main goal is "being woke", then I think the writers are focused on the wrong things.

  65. This is bothering me more than anything. Is that yellow patch on your shirt a pocket or is that just a graphic?

  66. A censored gay relationship is not queerbating – it's worse. It's showing people like me that sga and pda of same sex couples isn't worth depicting. Gross.

  67. The more I hear from Rowling, the more it's obvious that she's a terrible person; and her whole "Dumbledore is gay" thing increasingly looks like cynical pandering, rather than actual intention. And that HIV/Lycanthropy thing is seriously problematic given the behaviour of those characters. Then there's the fact that she recently outed herself as a TERF, which pretty much ended any chance I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on any of this.

  68. Thank you for acknowledging that the Q-word is still hurtful to some people in spite of the widespread reclamation. That matters a lot and many people dismiss it.

  69. It doesn't show signs of stopping, and I brought some corn for popping.
    Let's watch this shit burn away

    Queer baiting Queer baiting Queer baiting

  70. Specifically the biggest problem with the 'lycanthropy is a metaphor for HIV' idea, beyond werewolves being assholes was that Fenrir Greyback was a predator who had a preference for purposely infecting children. By doing what she did, JK Rowling, whether intentionally or not, ended up making it so that people with HIV are not just predators to begin with, but that there's now a connection to pedophilia as well. And those are both specific lies that have been used against gay men for decades. The idea that they want to hurt children is a myth that causes real damage and can even encourage nations to establish incredibly strict and sometimes even lethal punishments for just being gay.

  71. “[It’s] so close to being self aware that it’s almost funny.”

    That’s the most accurate review of Riverdale to ever be said.

  72. I'm disappointed this video didn't mention anything about the role fangirl culture plays, i.e., fujoshi (women who eroticise potential male/male relationships). A lot of times queerbaiting is aimed at the female gaze (pun intended?).

  73. No wonder Good Omens has been so well received. It's just lovely (granted, I've rewatched the Ineffable couple scenes about a million times, while I've fast-forwarded the rest).

  74. Your videos are not "weird dorky". OK, maybe they are, but you speak wonderfully and it's a pleasure to hear you.

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